Model 38

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:41 am
New to this forum. Have a Model 38 purchased in 1975. Seems a bit out of the ordinary. Any ideas? [Image

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.270 WIN
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:27 am
Hi,
Welcome aboard. Around that time frame Ithaca changed the model number from 37 to 38. There were a couple of minor changes, the extractor come to mind. The model designation changed back to 37 within the year.

Hope this helps. Yours looks good.

CF
PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 2:51 pm
Welcome to the Ithaca Owners Forum !!

Very nice...!!

.22LR
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:34 pm
I have one. Despite comments to the contrary, mine has worked and still works perfectly. This is from Diamond Gunsmithing, the owner being the former head gunsmith for Ithaca when they were in NY:

****In 1974, Ithaca tried a design change in the shell stop system, which proved to be faulty. They were reverted back to the original shell stops that year. All these Model 37's had the serial number prefix of 381. Any of these that came to the factory for service were converted back to the original shell stops at no charge.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:19 am
I never experienced any problems either. It's become a safe queen. I haven't shot it in many years. I'll end up selling it, as I hate to see a shotgun just lie around.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:15 pm
Some have said there's some added value to a collector, but to date I have not seen it...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 2:45 pm
that would depend if its an original unconverted one

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:45 am
twistedoak wrote:that would depend if its an original unconverted one



I never took it in to be converted. Could that have been done before I bought it? How do I tell if it's converted or not?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:53 pm
Find a parts break down of the model 37 or look at the parts pictures on the Ithaca Gun web site. See if your shell stops look like the ones shown. If they do not look the same then you gun was not converted.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:31 pm
3 easy differences to look for: on the 38, the slide tube bar (connects forearm slide tube to the bolt slide) has cut outs --__-------------__----- where the 37 action bar has none; and both the 38 shell stops have added metal --|--------- almost like a T that fit into the cut out and slide.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:30 pm
Converted guns will usually still have the notched action bar because it does not affect the old style shell stops. I have at least one post model 38 37's that have the notched action bar, I assume they simply used up the stock on hand and then went back to the old style.

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