prewar stock profiles

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:56 am
I've run into a bit of an anomaly and am wondering if anyone can confirm what I'm seeing.
my 1st year 37 seems to be sporting a different profile stock then my prewar 41s.
in fact after going back and looking at pics of 1st year 37s, mine seems to be a bit of an oddball.

the comb on my first year begins near the back of the gripcap.
every pic I can find of first year guns and all my prewars has the comb starting at the front of the gripcap.
a difference of about 3/4 of an inch, the transition from grip to comb is also higher because of this.
it gives the impression of an English profile or even moreso a doubles look

I can find no references to stock profile changes that early in the Ithaca bible.
has anyone else run across a stock like this?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:22 pm
I am in a hurry so please forgive the pictures. The top is S/N 794, the second is S/N 3706, the bottom gun is for comparison a pre war gun with a post war stock. Let me know if you need better pictures.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:05 pm
hmm it seems that there was a profile change between 37 and 41.
I can't upload any new photos at the moment for direct comparison but I can try with older ones.

in this pic is 2 prewar guns both 41s however only the top one has the correct stock
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I also have another prewar stock off a solid rib in the 7xxxx range
the 2 have identical profiles
notice where the comb starts towards the front of the grip cap

now if you compare it to your pics cutcher and this one of #2400
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you will notice the comb starts almost at the back of the grip cap.
you can really notice it when you use the checkering as a reference.

also of note is that there is also an obvious difference between the 2 prewar profiles and the postwar profiles.

so I guess my question now is , what year did they change prewar stock dimensions?
37 and 38 are still the same but by 41 they are different.
anyone have a 39and 40 for comparison?

ok after looking a few more time I found a short reference to them changing comb and drop in 38.
but I cant see how just that would so obviously change the shape of the stock.
they had to consciencely alter the overall look

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:20 pm
Interesting, I never noticed the difference before.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 2:51 pm
I have one from 46 that has a prewar profile. Keep in mind that while the profile changed after the war Ithaca kept using stockpiled parts. So that would account for the stock on mine.

Something else I found interesting. while the prewar stock profile was basically the same. The dimensions were different on different models For example a field grade gun would be different from a T model.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 9:31 pm
resurrection , got I finally got a pic together

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the top gun is a yr 37
the middle stock is a prewar R stock (it has a 70xxx sn
the bottom gun is a 41R with a 60s stock.

notice the profile difference between the two prewar stocks

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