New vs Old Ithaca 37?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:49 pm
I want to purchase an Ithaca 37, part for hunting and maybe home defense.

Are the new ones as well made, reliable, and long lasting as the older ones? Why or why not?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:00 pm
Welcome aboard,

I own one from just about every era of Ithaca. Except an Ohio gun. The plan is to own a new one soon.
That said from the things I hear about the new ones they are made as well if not better than an older model.

With proper care it will be passed on to future generations.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:35 pm
I have model 37's going from first year production up threw a pair of his and hers 20 gauges we picked up a couple of years ago. Have not had a single problem with the Ohio guns ever. The new Ohio Ithaca has taken to machining of the new model 37's to a whole new level. The receivers are CNC machined on one machine something that the model 37 had never seen before. My understanding is that the earlier guns where machined in steps on several machines. This process produced some variances from gun to gun. The remaining internal parts are all CNC machined as well with tolerances closer that they have ever been before. As I recall the new guns require virtually no "hand fitting". Now for the barrels. They to are CNC machined from a blank as well. The vent rib stanchions are machined into the barrel during this process. The rib is then set into a dove tail in the front and a set screw secures it in the back. There is a dove tail machined into the bottom of the barrel to set the barrel lug into. The reason for this process is there is no heat introduced to the barrel for braising of the under-lug or solder for the vent rib giving you a barrel that is straight as an arrow. The long and the short of it is in my opinion the Ohio Ithaca guns are as well produced if not better that the New York Ithaca and if you buy one of the new ones you get the warranty on the slim chance that you will need it.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:16 am
Really? that's good to hear. Where can I find more information on the new Ithacas? Or reviews?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:52 pm
I would start with the Ithaca Gun web sight.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:03 am
Well, I'd really like to get independent information of people who have bought and shot their new production Ithacas a lot.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:27 pm
There are a few independent reviews posted on their web site. The folks at Ithaca also take the guns out for field testing as well. My understanding is at first the rib was attached with just a set screw. After taking the guns to Argentina to shoot doves the set screw would break with this high volume of shooting. That is when they added the dove tail for the rib. There has been a trap version of the 37 out for a couple of years now. Someone just posted what they thought of it in just the last week or so. Perhaps a trap forum would have some helpful information as well. The long and short of it is at least in my opinion is this. First it must be a good design or the gun would not have been in more or less constant production since 1921 when the Remington model 17 was introduced (the precursor of the model 37). Second the Ohio Ithaca is still in business for about 5 years and seems to be doing well. Not bad when you consider that you could go to a big box store and pick up a 870 Express or a Mossberg 500 for about half the cost of an Ithaca.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:50 pm
Check out Randy Wakeman's website. He did a review a while back I believe. Like Randy or loath Randy he pulls no punches, nor does he carry water for anyone. He gave the new Ithaca, bith field guns and defense guns glowing reviews. And he was no lover at all of the New York Ithacas. I believe he declared the HD version to be the best one compared to similar 870's and Mossbergs.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:30 am
He certainly has strong opinions. Agree or disagree, he's never sold out or pulled punches and I highly respect that. His reviews are always good reading
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:10 pm
Sometimes things that set him off I can live with, and things he can live with I don't like. But ain't that how it always is? Now he's not short on criticism of the old Ithacas at all, but he speaks glowingly of the new ones. But you're right I respect a feller who'll say what he thinks and not carry water for any company.
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