It's kind of hard to describe how we shoot, it's kind of like describing a dance.
We do not reload at the stations, but instead we are walking back and forth after each shot (or second shot with double barrels) to the reloading bench. Of course, safety is always uppermost, and we have a range officer that keeps a close eye on that. But with experienced people, it goes smoothly.
We use a rotational system which allows shooters to work at their own pace, but that will also affect how fast you can shoot a round. If I'm there by myself, or with just a few folks, I can shoot 16 birds with my single barrel in less than 45 minutes, but if it gets really busy, I've seen it take twice that. With the double, under 1/2 hour.
Wife had to really push getting in a round of trap (15 birds) in at the end of the day. She did it in 12 minutes. The reloading area is a lot closer on the trap range, so there is a lot less walking, but that was still really hopping.
We usually figure that a 10-bird Quail walk match will take about 1/2 hour, and for a single-barrel shooter, it almost feels like we are doing wind sprints back and forth to the reloading area.
Here are a couple of pictures of my nephews, one shooting trap, and the other at skeet, last June at Friendship.
I did it!
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That's very interesting Skeeter, thanks for sharing that.
Look at all that smoke! --Jim
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So, what is the update on your double?
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It came in today. I haven't even logged it into my book yet, too long a day, but I will give it a good going over tomorrow morning. I still have to get shells for it. I might start out with a few boxes of RST until I can tool up for Black powder type reloading. --Jim
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False Alarm, Skeeter. It turned out to be a shipment from Ithaca for a customer.
I guess the seller just shipped it out Thursday, it will be here nearly next week. Dang! --Jim
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My Crass came in today! It looks and feels great! I did check the serial number, it is in the 36000 range, so it looks like it is a crass and it was made in 1899.
I did break down and ordered some shells from RST so I hope to have it at the range very soon! --Jim
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Fabulous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pictures! Pictures! A flash in the pan, a puff of smoke, and a prayer to the great Lord on high...
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Thanks Skeeter, I will post, very soon. I cleaned it up but it really wasn't that dirty. I used a pick to get into the cracks and a bit of CLP on the bores and there was just some dried oil the bores only have a little bit of fuzzy in them, and I think some lead fouling, but otherwise they are surprisingly shiney --Jim
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I took my shiney new (old) Crass out for a couple of rounds. 32 inch barrels, mod on both barrels. LOP on the front trigger is 14 1/2" I used RST Max-lite 2 1/2" shells. I shot a pair of 18s. Not great, but I think the gun is a wee bit too short for me. I am thinking of putting in either a silvers or sunburst pad to get it a little longer. I sure don't need it for the recoil. Those RSTs were like shooting a 28 ga. Took me a few rounds to stop noticing the hammers falling.
It got a few stares and a few folks wanted to check it out, but none wanted to try it. --Jim
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That was great to hear!
If you were noticing the hammers falling, then your eyes probably weren't on the bird, so that might account for a couple of misses. People shooting flintlocks for the first time have the same problem. I normally shoot in the 19 - 21 range, so an 18 with a new gun is very respectable! A flash in the pan, a puff of smoke, and a prayer to the great Lord on high...
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I can imagine that people would have a bigger problem with flintlocks with the falling hammer AND that puff of smoke but yea, I need to learn to ignore the falling hammers. I still need to make it a littler longer though. I prefer a 14 3/4-15" LOP if I can manage it. Still, I do not want to damage that gun. I'll put up with the LOP if it meant I had to hack it up. anything that survived over 100 years deserves some respect. --Jim
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Very nice looking Ithaca-congrats!
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For a short term, you could try a slip-on pad. We keep one around in case I even need to shoot one of the wife's guns. Then, if that helps, mount one permanently.
We have been using an all-black pad, with no white lines to detract from the wood or call attention to it, A flash in the pan, a puff of smoke, and a prayer to the great Lord on high...
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thanks Doubles. It is in great shape, you can tell it was well care for. --Jim
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Yea, I'll probably do something like that for now, Skeeter. Besides, it will help protect that old buttplate from any bumps in the gun rack at the range. I think I need something on the order of 3/4" but I'll try a 1/2 slip on for now and see how that feels. --Jim
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So Raven, now that you've had it a while how do you like it? Are you still shooting the RST's or are you into the black powder reloading yet?
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Hey Col,
I really like it. It's alot of fun to shoot and it gets as many looks as any K-80 or Kolar. I'm still shooting the RST's I've haven't had the time to set up to reload those shorty 12 gauge loads. I'd like to try some Gamebores if I can get my hands on some, too. I know they stopped making their black powder loads, probably just as well. --Jim
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Raven would it be safe to shoot some low pressure smokeless loads out of it loaded with something like PB?
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Probably, Col. I mean the RST are pretty much that. As the owner of RST told me, if it is safe to shoot then they are safe to shoot. I would suggest you get the gun checked out well first, but if it does, low pressure loads should be OK. I'll defer to skeeter for the exact recipes.
--Jim
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