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Re: Show off your Flues & Nig Model...

PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:33 pm
by Flues16
Here is a late model field grade Flues 20 gauge. Serial #378xxx, made in 1924. 26" barrels, 2.5" chambers. Nice solid little gun. Image

Re: Show off your Flues & Nig Model...

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:45 am
by impala59
Well I didn't hold out much hope, but, wrongly spelled and mis-identified at a UK Auction I have now what I believe is a Flues 10g 1911 vintage. Cosmetically a little rough and not a high grade, I am nonetheless thrilled to have found an Ithaca Double. Ser. No. 207775 (all matching), its a great lump of a gun, 28" plain barrels 1/4 and 3/4 choke, 3" (76mm) chambers, wide machined rib, non ejector, all working and as tight a lock-up as you could wish for. I love it!
I should be grateful for the forums input, particularly if I have wrongly identified it myself!
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Re: Show off your Flues & Nig Model...

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:47 am
by impala59
some more pics
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F for Flues?
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Edit........... Paid £110 (about $150) for it, seems a bargain to me :D

Re: Show off your Flues & Nig Model...

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:36 am
by Donald
Great Gun, Great Deal! I have a 10 gauge Flues also 1911. Grade 1.5. Damascus Barrels. Paid $500 Canadian. Love it. Thanks Donald

Re: Show off your Flues & Nig Model...

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:05 pm
by impala59
Thanks Donald, I guess that Damascus barrels add a lot of value. Would you say that mine was 'Field Grade'? it does have the retriever engraving, although not deep (maybe just worn) but no fancy stars or scrolls
Regards
Roland

Re: Show off your Flues & Nig Model...

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:46 pm
by Donald
Don't think it would be a 1.5 like mine, but looks like a 1. A field gradse is very plain. Very strong guns, almost unbreakable. Will be a great shooter for you. It will take a bit of getting used to, be will be a comfortable gun to shoot. Thanks Donald

Re: Show off your Flues & Nig Model...

PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 1:31 pm
by twistedoak
I think Damascus barrels in the day were an upgrade option...
however over time I think the solid barrels become the preferred option

its comes down to time and the possibility for Damascus to delaminate ,
and the ability to safely determine if they are structurally sound.


ALSO you say 3" chamber ….
be carefull and inquire
2-9/16 was standard chamber size for a long time often they were opened up for 2-3/4" shells
the chamber has to account for the crip to unroll as the charge is fired.
if i'm not mistaken a 2-3/4 shell needs 3" of chamber space.
SO you may very well have 2-3/4" chambers and not 3"

Re: Show off your Flues & Nig Model...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:24 am
by impala59
ALSO you say 3" chamber ….
be carefull and inquire
2-9/16 was standard chamber size for a long time often they were opened up for 2-3/4" shells
the chamber has to account for the crip to unroll as the charge is fired.
if i'm not mistaken a 2-3/4 shell needs 3" of chamber space.
SO you may very well have 2-3/4" chambers and not 3"[/quote]

I assumed (sometimes dangerous I know!) 3" due to proof house markings on underside of barrel of 10-76. After your cautionary post I measured the chambers as best as I could at 82.8mm 3-17/64" which I guess (also dangerous practice!) would bear out as a 3" or 76mm chamber. I have not tried any 3" 10g but have tried 2-3/4". As a believer in using my collection as much as possible, I must confess to using 'Little Skeeters' 10-12 converters as 10g is so expensive. With a 12g, 28g #8 shot, I get great patterns and the recoil of a bb gun. This antique gun gets used and never overstressed, however if I get the chance for a waterfowl day this would be my gun of choice!

Re: Show off your Flues & Nig Model...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:30 am
by twistedoak
I just wanted to make sure you verified.
Ithaca didn't always stamp chamber size on. and stampings after chamber resizing ,is hit and miss
its not unheard of for someone to measure out a chamber at 2-3/4 and then stick a 2-3/4 in shell in.
or for someone to chamber a 3" shell into an unmarked resized 2-3/4.

I just confused myself so i'll stop ,I think you understand

Re: Show off your Flues & Nig Model...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:00 pm
by impala59
I believe that the 10-76 markings, with metric chamber size are UK and together with the other various UK proof house markings; Kings crown with BNP is definitive nitro proof barrel and action, (the others are earlier black powder proof and reproof) show that the chamber was measured in the Birmingham Proof House.
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I'm not an expert in proof marks but have a rudimentary listing which these are on. Rest assured Twisted I will stay on the safe side and I thank you for your interest and concern
Also 850 bar converts to 12328 psi

Re: Show off your Flues & Nig Model...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:45 pm
by twistedoak
well lets just say that more care and documentation happen on your side of the pond